What Mao said was right , communism isnt about being cool , only a nitwit would follow communism because it was “cool” , for that matter only a nitwit would follow something solely based on how “cool” it was .
communism isn’t cool you fucking retards, burn in hell, you think your funny sitting behind your computer laughing about something that was responsible for the death of millions including people in my family you little shits. stop joking about something you don’t even fucking understand.
Communism is merely a social ideology which advocates collective ownership and the abolition of classes and the state. Clearly, you’re the one who doesn’t understand it.
Well, if you want listen to “you guys are fucked”, Christianity has the blood of thousands on its hands on its hands due to the Holy Crusades. Islam because of the terrorsits that supposedly kill in its name, and Einstein is accountable for the people killed by the atomic bomb, he did afterall have a hand in its development. Just because someone says they follow an ideaology, doesn’t mean you should turn around and blame the theory if they fuck it up.
Not even mentioning the death toll in the holy fuck up that is the Iraq war, but I don’t go around stapling a piece of paper saying “MUDERER” on every Amercian’s head I see now do I?
omg, people just wanna say that communism is bad cuz its American to not like communism, i still think the ideology for communism is the best, its for the people, individuals that are stupid and dont no how to run shit and all they do is eat the money they get through taxes shouldnt be allowed to abuse power but instead use to help their people overall “With Great power comes responsibility.” I mean u say communism is bad u little shits cuz of some mere fraction of deaths not even comparing to some of America’s and Europe’s wars and and these crusades, compared to the deaths of crusades, world wars, and the A-bomb?. The crusades were nothing but murders, using the A-bomb on humans was nothing but mere genocide, dont defile the communist name with such murders. For Justice without Righteous Moral is no different from senseless murder, However, Murder in the name of Moral Justice is Righteous
Well , as far as it does not work is concerned . Doing the right thing is what is important . If you stop doing the right thing because you are going to fail , then you really need to rethink your policies in life .
If more people thought like you , the world would be a hell of a crappy place , lucky for us they dont .
I’m not a communist, merely a socialist. But to all you fascist capitalists saying communism won’t work: the only reason capitalism works is because it is all one big lie. The fuckin few rich Bougoise tell most of the poor people they have “opportunity” when all they’re really doing is working for the upper class and making shit. Plus communism would work if it wasn’t for people being fuckin lazy. “Where’s the incentive to work?” Certainly not up your ass where your head is. Working for your motherland should be enough to encourage any populace to thrive.
And this is to “You guys are fucked”: yes, the USSR was responsible for a signifigant of deaths and the KGB wasn’t to loveable, but the US government and the CIA were far worse (not the US people though). They went into perfectly peaceful countries, assasinated their presidents, and placed in power Capitalist dictators who killed millions of people all together. On top of that, the US military sent weapons to these regimes, in order to assure that the good people don’t rebel and stop the american capitalists from making money. Don’t recall this? That’s because the CIA still can’t get the balls to admit they are terrorists worse than al queda (btw, al queda is a division of the cia built to stop capitalism). So in short, I am very sorry your family was killed, but that was just the USSR, not communism. Communism carried out properly could be a very peacelu, thriving new way of life.
That genocide and facism that happened in the 20th century was not the result of communism, it was the result of a state controlled capitalism. Also, anyone who defends Mao is not a comrade of mine. He was out of his mind, along with Stalin.
I am Confused I think Communisum dosen’t work because of the to many benifits which allows the people to turn lazy so how can communisum work (pleaz to not insult me because I am a muslim.
what the hell does being a muslim have anything to do with debating. I don’t blame you for thinking communism doesn’t work, because other people probably convinced you. But communism didn’t make people lazy, people are already lazy; they don’t believe that the benefit of the common good is more important then themselves. If people got off thier lazy assas then it would work. But that won’t happen. What should happen is that you only get paid if you work, and everyone should be allowed a job; that way the lazy shits will have to work if they want food and shelter. As for the mentaly and physically disabled who can not work in any way (which is very unlikely), they could apply for welfare.
Would be great if it worked and I’d be first in line to try and make it happen, unfortunately it never does work though because power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. No nation on earth has ever actually been communist, only been fascist states who call themselves communist. The end result of ‘communism’ always seems to be a fascist dictatorship with a capitalist economy. Communism is great, but fascist dictators claiming to be communist like Mao are pure fu(king evil.
yea, I’m with u there, communism is only an economic system, meaning you could lace it with any government you want, so I think A democratic Socialist state would kick ass
A) Communism, as we have seen it, has been a miserable failure and been FAR WORSE than your so called U.S. Imperialism. Unless you want to compare our policies of reconstructing governments with 60 million dead in Stalin’s Gulogs.
B) People are naturally egotistical. There is no way of maintaining a society were everybody is concerned for the greater good.
C) If communism was around today….society would be stagnant. Without capitalism there is absolutely no incentive to perform or innovate. People strive to innovate because of competition and monetary gain. You can not say that enough people ( i say “enough people” because I know you can all come up with exceptions) will go through the extra years, stress, and work to finish med school if they arnt going to make serious money at the end of the journey.
In order for society to progress, there needs to be incentive. Communism doesn’t offer it.
The original communism was actually just a plan for a structure of society that labeled everyone as equals and worked towards the greater good tirelessly. Sounds too good to be true? Your right. Because as far as the facts stands, “communism” can never be achieved simply because its impossible for humans to actually adopt it’s philosophy. According to the Chinese implementation of communism (a total failure by the way) “a communist’s first joy is to work”… this was directly adopted from the original definition. Now “what kind of bull crap is that” you ask? it’s a sign that you’re unfit to be a communist.
All in all, it would be nice if communism could be true, everybody would live in a greed-free harmony, but it is by far too optimistic in the nature of human beings. Which is why we should just embrace the fact that selfishness is concretely sealed into our nature as a species and carry on living by capatalism which fits us perfectly “i worry about myself, you stay the hell out”
In light of what I just said. I don’t really expect you to give a damn about what I’ve said, and nor will I pay you the respect of reading your replies. bye byes
you people are right; communism does not offer incentive, and as I mentioned earlier, I am not a communist, I am a democratic socialist. I believe that workers whould all have stock in a company so the harder they work, the more they make. I also believ that all community porperty (such as companies, parks, recreational halls) should be owned by the people and thier committies, not the government like communism.
you people clearly don’t know your marx. communism according to marx is a society that would eventuate many years after socialism had been implemented. his theory was that societys evolve over time to improve upon themselves-feudalism to capitalism to socialism to communism. it is therefore impossible to have a communist society unless it is already socialist! the ussr, the prc and the entire eastern bloc were stalinist regimes.stalin usurped socialism in russia when he seized power after lenin died, at the expense of trotsky who was supposed to be leader. stalin turned the ussr into a bureaucratic police state. yes millions did die at the hands of stalinists but that was due to them being paranoid megalomaniacal tyrants. the capitalists are constantly feeding us propaganda, through the media and the education system.you may not realise it, neither did the people in nazi germany or the ussr. just think advertising. they are trying to maintain the status quo, where a minute few gain vast riches while billions of people struggle to stay alive. you are unable to keep that amount of people under control for long.the revolution is coming.
Viva Marx! awesome wallpapers.. I will not had used the word “cool” myself but …. is your art.
one thing I have to say.. at least you are not afraid like all this stupid American Liberals to call yourself a communists,
that is a step in the right direction.
This isn’t cool
You don’t understand the essence of commonliving, it was (and it still is) the dream of many
nations
We try to rich Communism for 80 years
Red flag was the simbol, and l think, that it deserve proper respect.
A)In a socialist system (see Sweden) monetary compensation is offered to those who wish to pursue studies which is in itself an incentive for higher education. If the capitalist systems at least implemented some form of compensated higher education those whose studies take longer would not be seen as a reason to obtain higher salary.
B)In order to establish a harmonic system were true equality reigns we must not only abolish classes we must abolish the systems of governance. Communism and politicians tend to not work well together because those in power are more than likely the greedy therefore proper economic equality is biased by the heads of state. This is why communism has failed…and seldom have been seen Democratic-Communist states.
Also in reference to “the greater good” comments if a communist state is well run and well maintained most aspects of criminality will also be abolished, thus in a way the greater good leads to “involuntary” personal and “selfish” gain.
I agree totally with historybuff. Communism is the best policy for the comman man. An idea that has been swept under the rug by the fascist capitalists that run America.
These men have built their own monsters only to strike them down later(Saddam Hussein). I also agree that while the KGB and the Soviet government had flaws that were mainly due to the paranoia of a great war hero, but the CIA and US government is far worse to the international community. It still shocks me that more is not said that the entire fact that was a “war on drugs” is because the CIA ran drugs during the Vietnam War. Which i believe was an even worse event than the war for oil. Perhaps more soldiers died in Vietnam, but more Iraqis have died than vietnamese. But the Vietnam war was an attempt to stop the spread of social equality and install a fascist dictator over all of vietnam. Besides, communism has always been cool. And if another war monger gets elected president, the time will be perfect for a communist uprising in America.
das uberdog, just tolet u know, uber is not used in that context in german, and dog (aside from the fact that you didn’t even say dog in in german) takes the masculine case, not neuter, so it would be “der” not “das”. Du bist einer sheizekopf!
Well seeing as this has become a sort of debate about communism, communism in it’s self did not cause the death of anyone, Leninism, Stalinism and Maoism did though which are all off shoots of Marxism (which was rejected by Marx himself). As for the the wallpaper I think it’s pretty cool and unfortunately true, Communism has become something of a fashion statement for dumb teenager looking to “rebel” against mummy and daddy when if anyone took their Myspace and their iPods away they would probably have a panic attack.
When capital and the ruling classes apologize for: Colonialism, the 14 hour work day, Class privilege, the 7 day working week, children in coalmines, the opium wars, the massacre of the Paris Commune, slavery, the Spanish-American War, the Boer War, Starvation, Apartheid, anti-Union laws, the First World War, Flanders, Trench Warfare, Mustard Gas, Aerial Bombing, The Soviet Intervention, The Armenian Genocide, Chemical Weapons, Fascism, The Great Depression, Hunger Marches, Nazism, the Spanish Civil War, Militarism, Asbestosis, Radiation Death, The Massacre of Nanking, the Second World War, Belsen, Dresden, Hiroshima, Racism, the Mafia, Nuclear Weapons, the Korean War, DDT, McCarthyism, Productions Lines, Blacklists, Thalidomide, the Rape of the Third World, Poverty, The Arms Race, Plastic Surgery, The Electric Chair, Environmental Degradation, the Vietnam War, the Military Suppression of Greece, India, Malaya, Indonesia, Chile, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Deforestation, Organized Crime, the Heroin and Cocaine Trade, Tuberculosis, the destruction of the Ozone Layer, Cancer, Exploitation of Labor, and the deaths of 50,000,000 Communists and Trade Unionists in this century alone, THEN, AND ONLY THEN WILL I CONSIDER APOLOGIZING FOR THE ERRORS OF SOCIALISM!
Communism has only killed 100 million people. Let’s give it another chance, you bastards.
I don’t give a damn about your fashion, but when you openly advocate a perverse, immoral system because you are think it is hip and cool you’re an accomplice to these deaths and the deaths of countless others who will die because of your ignorant support for oppressive regimes. If you think communism is about being anti-establishment and supporting the common man ask those who have lived under communist regimes how they feel about your ideas. Rhetoric is not cheap. Ideas have consequences. Consider the consequences of yours before you embrace this bullshit.
Communism isn’t about killing millions of people. That happens when you’ve got an oppresive dictatorship, regardless of what they claim to endorse. (For example, when it comes to social policies, Hitler and Stalin were quite similar.) Also, communism is a socioeconomic system, not a moral one.
communism is never gonna work.. its just to damn “borgish” :P… but socialism can work and i would love if it was dominant all over the world.. it bases upon equality, brotherhood and unity.. there is no private property, education is free, health care is free.. Yugoslavia had all that but God damned capitalists couldn’t stand socialism .. Anyway as Marx said capitalism will fall it must and, i say it again, it will happen sooner or later:))
I used to be a Communist but I realized that total equality with all the masses is impossible in this world. However, you can have equality in terms of value as a citizen in a nation, state or community. International equality will happen when hell freezes over. That said, you can have value in the role you play in a given society. The salaries of different workers and the wide variety of skills required in a country all have different monetary values but are still essential to the country’s functions as a whole.
For example, the human body has many different parts and functions and without one function working properly the body dies or is critically damaging, and some parts work harder and longer than others. Nevertheless, this does not mean the others are not valued; on the contrary, they are interdependent. The heart, for instance, works all the time never ceasing (or, of course, you’ll die) pumping blood everywhere thus supplying the rest of the body with oxygen, nutrients, et cetera. No one ever thinks though that the heart requires more electrical signals than the rest of the body to keep it running. Let us say that the signals are currency; the heart needs more money than the blood does (the worker).
In short, a country needs different classes require different monetary incomes but all are still valued equally in terms of need as a whole. Unity is the key term; functional society as a whole, each individual contributes their bit while the country runs smoothly.
Communism cannot work because of this principle nor can pure capitalism. A fusion between the two with other elements is needed for an effective nation; both an equal and unified one. It is the organic unity that makes society work; co-operation between social classes not trivial bickering. There will always be some group doing more work than others thus will be wanting more in return. Greed is humanity’s downfall. Jealously, envy and selfishness are all in man’s nature when there is no system in place that strives for unity rather than individualism.
You all should know that communism as a regime never exsisted. You see comunism is the final step of the vanishing of the state as a whole, and for communism to triumph you need the whole world to be united in that cause. And all of those “communist” states were socialist in nature. So, in a way communism is a united world with no politicians where the system is: “From each according to his abilities to each according to his needs”(i dont know if i wrote this right because english isnt my strong side).
And USSR did not colapse because communism is bad, but because americans payed Gorbachev for peretstroika which ruined the Soviet economy when it was at its peak. And SFRY(Yugoslavia) perished because every republic’s nationalists were funded by guess who.
P.S. And for that cretein who talks about communist killings, I realy dont know if he heard for the NATO bombings of 1999,McCarthyism,Iraq…
Communism has failed simply because the state has been involved. Freedom without socialism is priveledge and inequality, but Socialism without freedom is brutality and slavery.
I’m an Anarcho-Communist. Anarchist communism advocates the abolition of the state and capitalism in favor of a horizontal network of voluntary associations, workers’ councils and/or commons through which everyone will be free to satisfy their needs.
So, anyone who is convinced that authoritarianism and communism are synonymous REALLY isn’t thinking critically.
It makes me laugh people,reading all these replies,one government system against another,in every system there is good points & bad ones,it is the human nature of the people in power who is to blame, take for instance Stalin it was his interpretation of socialism,for his own selfish power hungry motivations,not for his people, the common good of all.His own paranoia & threats to his leadership caused the death of millions of people not communism.Look at capitalism,we all work during the week,only to be ripped of by the consumer goods in which we buy,never being happy with our lifestyles,getting more & more depressed by the day,this research can be backed up because of leading psychologists & sociologists saying western & eastern economies have some of the most unhappy & dissatisfied people,crime rates always rising,anti social behavior with pathetic laws which do not work,people no respecting each other young & especially old.Poor people working their bullocks of all day,true hard graft,for the pathetic min um wage & dying younger on average than their rich capitalists ie:directors,chairmans,politicians,bankers,industrialists & so on.The very same people who are saying the unskilled don’t wont work,these people wouldn’t get out of bed for less than 70k a year it makes you
laugh.If capitalism was to be fairer for all classes, or should I say no class to be exact, the wealth of the country should be distributed to the needy so there is no poverty I don’t mean reward people for sitting around,instead of all these rich peoples bank accounts swelling for the sake of it,take George Sorus why does he need billions to live on,also Bill Gates, I am not condemning what they have achieved personally,just the evil of hoarding money,in the bible it says gluttony is a sin,hence also money.It is human nature to blame people always wont more money than somebody else this is the problem,I personally think a balance between socialism & capitalism would work best,encouraging people to work hard for gain & distribute wealth to the vulnerable & disadvantaged. Education is the key to rising people living standards,unfortunately not everybody is academic,hence poverty,not because they are all lazy and bone idle .It should be a society of caring for your fellow human beings, not,who can accumulate the most wealth at someone else’s expense.
Seriously, comrade! epic and wonderful! But, I must question, why the hammer and sickle, symbolic of the working men for which the communist parties commonly represented, is not among them! Regardless, still grand. But, you should get some hammer/sickle action up in here.
nice debate.. for me.. still peace is my dream and hope the world can be peace and together and whatever people believe don’t judge it cos people have their own choice..
Death tolls and politics aside, Fritz Indiana (above) said it best, “total equality with all the masses is impossible in this world.” In a world of limited resources, someone is always going to want/need more, whether it’s food, oil, or oceanfront property. It’s called human nature. Pure communism is a nice idea, but so are Santa Claus, unicorns and fairy godmothers. The answer is probably somewhere in between capitalism and communism. That said, cool wallpaper image. I doubt it was meant to insight such fervent debate.
So far, no one government has yet to harness “true” communism. Then again, I believe that failure is BECAUSE governments get involved. Communism is an ideology, not a system of government. All previous so-called “socialist” leaders have twisted communism to fit their own selfish needs (Mao, Marx, Stalin, etc). Daz M, Historybuff, maestro, and Rob J all present very valid points.
yea.. most of the communist countries fell because of good things those U.S has made.. and we, Chinese, won’t be that stupid anymore… we don’t like other country to mix in our country’s problems… not even the dalai lama, taiwan, hongkong and macao.. see? now China is a super power country… even U.S can’t win us in Korea, and Vietnam… that proves Communist isn’t bad at all…
Well it’s been a long, long time since I did this but…I’m glad to see the interest still alive, yet sad because people on both sides still don’t understand!
For Kamerads and opponents please get educated about what it is and isn’t…I wrote an article several years ago and posted to many different sites and also made a pamphelet out of it that I’m sure both sides will at least find thought provoking…enjoy
name and e-mail (cjh332033@yahoo.com) are real…if there are any problems with link, let me know
communism is real and you can mope and moan about how its fucked up in history but its the only real way to achieve equality in a utopian society.
and yes nobody/no society has been able to reach that utopian communist stage… YET. maybe except the smurfs, note gargamel the capitalist who wishes to turn the smurfs to GOLD. notice brainys round glasses like lenins, papa smurfs beard like marxs. all in uniform, all have their jobs, equal and living in harmony.
if you’re going to settle for a capitalist democratic society then the world is only ever going to be as fucked up as it is now.
well what if there just was no government no money nothing if someone needed something they could just ask for it. and i no the argument “oh but suplies are limmited we need to spread them out to everyone” no we dont we give them to the people that need them and sure some people need more things then others like a blacksmith needs more metal than a hunter but the hunter needs more wool to keep warm (yea i know thats all from olden days but it works in the same sense) so if the whole world could just get along for like 20 years to get rid of all the government then all the money and set up a good system of getting suplies and all that good stuff then we could probably handle our selves
in communists ne desh ki durgati kar rakhi hai.communists ne mere area ki mostly badi factories band kara di,ab sabhi majdoor bhikariyoon ki tarah ghoom rahe hain aur communist leader maze kar rahe hain.
sach main communism world main kahin bhi successful nahi raha.communism jaroori tha,par aaj se 50 saal pahle,ab to communism duniya ka pressure ban gaya hai.isse finish kar dena chahiye aur communist parties ko ban kar dena chahiye.
communism is a very bad thing. My family lived in communism and said it was hell. If you don’t like it they kill you. (China is an exception) You people don’t understand how serious it is. The government owns you and you can’t leave the country or any thing. They can even decide how many babies you have. The reason everyone agrees in communism is because they don’t have a choice.
umm… if people are not allowed to leave how come I’m in the U.S.? The only reason why people can’t leave communist countries is because Capitalist countries restrict the quantity of people that may enter.
It is very true that million’s of people die when the country is communist. That is due to the fact that people has been dying there in the first place. In China for example, millions are said to have died during the Great Leap forward, but I can say way more died before communism was able to establish itself such as during the Sino-Japanese war from 1937-1945.
A really great example of how Communism balance the world is the current world situation. The U.S. is the sole superpower in the world as of now, however it could not invade any country it wants. Countries such as N. Korea and Vietnam has protection from China. Iraq does not, therefore the U.S. was able to invade the country and get away with it. If there was n communism-the Sole superpower would be able to do anything it likes (assasinate leaders, cause revolts) to make itself look good.
commrades,i’m not a communist bt i do believe in socialist republic (PURE) one
and communism is essential for the society it’s a requirement tht will bring order and peace to the courrupted societies even though Democracy is FREE well
there’s still alot of works tht need to be done.Communism is a god father of
all politic-isms.Democracy is the finest product of the communism and it’s
an evolution of the socialisim of the world today……….
if we are to rebuild a country like myanmar communism or socialism is the
appropriate one and after the order is restored tht’s when democracy comes in…
Socialism is an abhorrent, vile, corrupt idea, that impinges upon freedom at every turn as it plunges its citizens into poverty and suffering.
Thankfully, it is also impossible, never has and never will exist. It relies upon shared ideology, as opposed to the Democratic ’selection of the best’. It cannot make economic calculations and as such cannot plan any construction, agricultural or technological work. It gives power to radical minorities, suppressing dissent, free speech and the press. And this is not just the USSR or the People’s Republic of China. Every Socialist regime will become an oppressive dictatorship or an interventionist state purely because of the poor reasoning and reactionary premise on which it is founded.
The best we can do is to free up trade, vote down interventionism but also encourage philanthropic civil committees. It makes people richer, more comfortable, more empowered and freer to travel, change and grow. Socialism is forever stuck in its polylogistic naivety, where a class system is invented as a scapegoat for the radical and jealous minorities.
yea.. most of the communist countries fell because of good things those U.S has made.. and we, Chinese, won’t be that stupid anymore… we don’t like other country to mix in our country’s problems… not even the dalai lama, taiwan, hongkong and macao.. see? now China is a super power country… even U.S can’t win us in Korea, and Vietnam… that proves Communist isn’t bad at all…
Yeah, a single-party state which systematically opposes legitimate independence movements and whose economic success has gone hand-in-hand with its abandoning communist doctrine and embracing capitalism is a great example of how communism isn’t bad at all.
aarohoops:
The discussion on this stupid post is pretty ridiculous to begin with, but there’s no way I’m going to let people start talking about anarchism. There’s ridiculous and then there’s ridiculous.
‘Me’:
communist governments rarely do what hey say they will.
You can drop the first word from that sentence and it remains as true, if not truer.
CommieD:
umm… if people are not allowed to leave how come I’m in the U.S.? The only reason why people can’t leave communist countries is because Capitalist countries restrict the quantity of people that may enter.
Certainly, not everyone in every communist country has been completely barred from leaving, but freedom of movement is often highly restricted, and that’s not because of capitalist countries restricting immigration. I started to compile some examples (GDR, DPRK, Cuba, etc.) but I stopped because there’s little point in trying—yours is an extreme view that requires extreme evidence to be taken seriously, and no such evidence was given.
It is very true that million’s of people die when the country is communist. That is due to the fact that people has been dying there in the first place. In China for example, millions are said to have died during the Great Leap forward, but I can say way more died before communism was able to establish itself such as during the Sino-Japanese war from 1937-1945.
You mean to suggest that communism would have prevented that Sino-Japanese war? Otherwise, I don’t see the relevance of that comparison.
Mises:
What makes you think socialism and democracy represent a dichotomy? One is economics, the other is politics.
If communism had ever existed (which it hasn’t) we probably wouldn’t be having this silly debate. Socialism is the emancipation of the working classes unlike Christianity which keeps people tethered to false gods blowing the shit out of each other because their superiors told them to. Anyone who says communism has already failed is a fucking moron, the ol\nly thing we have seen in ‘communist’ countries is “State Capitalism.” After all if everyone was equal, we’d have no need for money.
Anyway, nice wallpapers, and to all those who flamed this page, get over yourselves. =]
Srsly dudes, Communism works pretty great when used correctly i was a Nazi but changed didn’t like it’s system to handle difference people but i was young and stupid, Communism i cool and the thing why all this peopled because of that, isn’t communisms fault it’s the leaders so people saying communism is bad, scree you, you listen to much US propaganda and only read that Mao and Stalin killed 30 and 60 million people and it was under Communism, it’s the leaders fault not Communism think about it before you write “Communism sucks it coursed 100 million deaths”
Hey I totally disagree with… Oh wait if we want communism then we can’t even post things like this because you are using a a system created and made by capitalists. Do you even get it? No you don’t. The system you are using (the internet) to spread YOUR propaganda, right now, that “Communism is cool” was made by capitalists and the great motherland didn’t even have personal computers at the time. Forget your computer, forget your program to make that poster, and definitely forget the internet because if America was under communism you couldn’t do any of that. In fact we wouldn’t even be able to have this discussion, we would be too busy raping women, drinking vodka, and sewing potato seeds for the government. Its time to get a grip on reality my dear comrade!
This world is fucked in a capitalist society, Comuninsum tryes to bring the good in humans. For all people who think comunisum is a dictatorship, (whel to get to the first step it in need) there rong, its a dimocracy and no country has ever been comunist ( big thanks to wallstreet, fags).
People who say communists are good are so gonna be fucked! don’t you see how many innocent slaughtered, huh? Don’t you dare joke about this shit! or i screwed your motherfucking head up!
this is very good
cooooooooool
Awesome work comrade.
this is stupid Communism isn’t about being cool its about being the right thing to do, its about the equality among the masses
You’d say that, fascist.
It’s really cool,I just love it
What Mao said was right , communism isnt about being cool , only a nitwit would follow communism because it was “cool” , for that matter only a nitwit would follow something solely based on how “cool” it was .
I’m not going to judge your opinion, so I’m just going to say: read The Manifesto of the Communist Party. Engels and Marx sure knew what was cool.
communism isn’t cool you fucking retards, burn in hell, you think your funny sitting behind your computer laughing about something that was responsible for the death of millions including people in my family you little shits. stop joking about something you don’t even fucking understand.
Communism is merely a social ideology which advocates collective ownership and the abolition of classes and the state. Clearly, you’re the one who doesn’t understand it.
Well, if you want listen to “you guys are fucked”, Christianity has the blood of thousands on its hands on its hands due to the Holy Crusades. Islam because of the terrorsits that supposedly kill in its name, and Einstein is accountable for the people killed by the atomic bomb, he did afterall have a hand in its development. Just because someone says they follow an ideaology, doesn’t mean you should turn around and blame the theory if they fuck it up.
Not even mentioning the death toll in the holy fuck up that is the Iraq war, but I don’t go around stapling a piece of paper saying “MUDERER” on every Amercian’s head I see now do I?
fuck imperialists…
and one more thing…
communism is not a fashion statement..
thats all…
omg, people just wanna say that communism is bad cuz its American to not like communism, i still think the ideology for communism is the best, its for the people, individuals that are stupid and dont no how to run shit and all they do is eat the money they get through taxes shouldnt be allowed to abuse power but instead use to help their people overall “With Great power comes responsibility.” I mean u say communism is bad u little shits cuz of some mere fraction of deaths not even comparing to some of America’s and Europe’s wars and and these crusades, compared to the deaths of crusades, world wars, and the A-bomb?. The crusades were nothing but murders, using the A-bomb on humans was nothing but mere genocide, dont defile the communist name with such murders. For Justice without Righteous Moral is no different from senseless murder, However, Murder in the name of Moral Justice is Righteous
Pffft! The A-Bomb cost less lives than the alternative (look it up yourself!).
Err… also, communism doesn’t work. Mixed economies FTW!
Well , as far as it does not work is concerned . Doing the right thing is what is important . If you stop doing the right thing because you are going to fail , then you really need to rethink your policies in life .
If more people thought like you , the world would be a hell of a crappy place , lucky for us they dont .
I’m not a communist, merely a socialist. But to all you fascist capitalists saying communism won’t work: the only reason capitalism works is because it is all one big lie. The fuckin few rich Bougoise tell most of the poor people they have “opportunity” when all they’re really doing is working for the upper class and making shit. Plus communism would work if it wasn’t for people being fuckin lazy. “Where’s the incentive to work?” Certainly not up your ass where your head is. Working for your motherland should be enough to encourage any populace to thrive.
And this is to “You guys are fucked”: yes, the USSR was responsible for a signifigant of deaths and the KGB wasn’t to loveable, but the US government and the CIA were far worse (not the US people though). They went into perfectly peaceful countries, assasinated their presidents, and placed in power Capitalist dictators who killed millions of people all together. On top of that, the US military sent weapons to these regimes, in order to assure that the good people don’t rebel and stop the american capitalists from making money. Don’t recall this? That’s because the CIA still can’t get the balls to admit they are terrorists worse than al queda (btw, al queda is a division of the cia built to stop capitalism). So in short, I am very sorry your family was killed, but that was just the USSR, not communism. Communism carried out properly could be a very peacelu, thriving new way of life.
sorry, I meant Al Queda was meant to stop Communism. they were put in power by the capitalists.
That genocide and facism that happened in the 20th century was not the result of communism, it was the result of a state controlled capitalism. Also, anyone who defends Mao is not a comrade of mine. He was out of his mind, along with Stalin.
I agree, stalin was no better than his enemy hitler.
I am Confused I think Communisum dosen’t work because of the to many benifits which allows the people to turn lazy so how can communisum work (pleaz to not insult me because I am a muslim.
what the hell does being a muslim have anything to do with debating. I don’t blame you for thinking communism doesn’t work, because other people probably convinced you. But communism didn’t make people lazy, people are already lazy; they don’t believe that the benefit of the common good is more important then themselves. If people got off thier lazy assas then it would work. But that won’t happen. What should happen is that you only get paid if you work, and everyone should be allowed a job; that way the lazy shits will have to work if they want food and shelter. As for the mentaly and physically disabled who can not work in any way (which is very unlikely), they could apply for welfare.
You’re a retard. Communism is hell on Earth.
Would be great if it worked and I’d be first in line to try and make it happen, unfortunately it never does work though because power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. No nation on earth has ever actually been communist, only been fascist states who call themselves communist. The end result of ‘communism’ always seems to be a fascist dictatorship with a capitalist economy. Communism is great, but fascist dictators claiming to be communist like Mao are pure fu(king evil.
yea, I’m with u there, communism is only an economic system, meaning you could lace it with any government you want, so I think A democratic Socialist state would kick ass
A) Communism, as we have seen it, has been a miserable failure and been FAR WORSE than your so called U.S. Imperialism. Unless you want to compare our policies of reconstructing governments with 60 million dead in Stalin’s Gulogs.
B) People are naturally egotistical. There is no way of maintaining a society were everybody is concerned for the greater good.
C) If communism was around today….society would be stagnant. Without capitalism there is absolutely no incentive to perform or innovate. People strive to innovate because of competition and monetary gain. You can not say that enough people ( i say “enough people” because I know you can all come up with exceptions) will go through the extra years, stress, and work to finish med school if they arnt going to make serious money at the end of the journey.
In order for society to progress, there needs to be incentive. Communism doesn’t offer it.
The original communism was actually just a plan for a structure of society that labeled everyone as equals and worked towards the greater good tirelessly. Sounds too good to be true? Your right. Because as far as the facts stands, “communism” can never be achieved simply because its impossible for humans to actually adopt it’s philosophy. According to the Chinese implementation of communism (a total failure by the way) “a communist’s first joy is to work”… this was directly adopted from the original definition. Now “what kind of bull crap is that” you ask? it’s a sign that you’re unfit to be a communist.
All in all, it would be nice if communism could be true, everybody would live in a greed-free harmony, but it is by far too optimistic in the nature of human beings. Which is why we should just embrace the fact that selfishness is concretely sealed into our nature as a species and carry on living by capatalism which fits us perfectly “i worry about myself, you stay the hell out”
In light of what I just said. I don’t really expect you to give a damn about what I’ve said, and nor will I pay you the respect of reading your replies. bye byes
Dear lord. What the hell happened here.
you people are right; communism does not offer incentive, and as I mentioned earlier, I am not a communist, I am a democratic socialist. I believe that workers whould all have stock in a company so the harder they work, the more they make. I also believ that all community porperty (such as companies, parks, recreational halls) should be owned by the people and thier committies, not the government like communism.
you people clearly don’t know your marx. communism according to marx is a society that would eventuate many years after socialism had been implemented. his theory was that societys evolve over time to improve upon themselves-feudalism to capitalism to socialism to communism. it is therefore impossible to have a communist society unless it is already socialist! the ussr, the prc and the entire eastern bloc were stalinist regimes.stalin usurped socialism in russia when he seized power after lenin died, at the expense of trotsky who was supposed to be leader. stalin turned the ussr into a bureaucratic police state. yes millions did die at the hands of stalinists but that was due to them being paranoid megalomaniacal tyrants. the capitalists are constantly feeding us propaganda, through the media and the education system.you may not realise it, neither did the people in nazi germany or the ussr. just think advertising. they are trying to maintain the status quo, where a minute few gain vast riches while billions of people struggle to stay alive. you are unable to keep that amount of people under control for long.the revolution is coming.
Viva Marx! awesome wallpapers.. I will not had used the word “cool” myself but …. is your art.
one thing I have to say.. at least you are not afraid like all this stupid American Liberals to call yourself a communists,
that is a step in the right direction.
Solidarity
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This isn’t cool
You don’t understand the essence of commonliving, it was (and it still is) the dream of many
nations
We try to rich Communism for 80 years
Red flag was the simbol, and l think, that it deserve proper respect.
You’re trying to rich communism? I think you are the one who doesn’t understand the point of it—communism is about equality, not getting rich.
A)In a socialist system (see Sweden) monetary compensation is offered to those who wish to pursue studies which is in itself an incentive for higher education. If the capitalist systems at least implemented some form of compensated higher education those whose studies take longer would not be seen as a reason to obtain higher salary.
B)In order to establish a harmonic system were true equality reigns we must not only abolish classes we must abolish the systems of governance. Communism and politicians tend to not work well together because those in power are more than likely the greedy therefore proper economic equality is biased by the heads of state. This is why communism has failed…and seldom have been seen Democratic-Communist states.
Also in reference to “the greater good” comments if a communist state is well run and well maintained most aspects of criminality will also be abolished, thus in a way the greater good leads to “involuntary” personal and “selfish” gain.
I agree totally with historybuff. Communism is the best policy for the comman man. An idea that has been swept under the rug by the fascist capitalists that run America.
These men have built their own monsters only to strike them down later(Saddam Hussein). I also agree that while the KGB and the Soviet government had flaws that were mainly due to the paranoia of a great war hero, but the CIA and US government is far worse to the international community. It still shocks me that more is not said that the entire fact that was a “war on drugs” is because the CIA ran drugs during the Vietnam War. Which i believe was an even worse event than the war for oil. Perhaps more soldiers died in Vietnam, but more Iraqis have died than vietnamese. But the Vietnam war was an attempt to stop the spread of social equality and install a fascist dictator over all of vietnam. Besides, communism has always been cool. And if another war monger gets elected president, the time will be perfect for a communist uprising in America.
Das Uberdog- Du bist ein schweinenhund, und eine Sheisekopf. Du kannst nicht deutsch sprechen. Sagst du “Uber” nochmal dann du wirdest tote sein!
das uberdog, just tolet u know, uber is not used in that context in german, and dog (aside from the fact that you didn’t even say dog in in german) takes the masculine case, not neuter, so it would be “der” not “das”. Du bist einer sheizekopf!
Well seeing as this has become a sort of debate about communism, communism in it’s self did not cause the death of anyone, Leninism, Stalinism and Maoism did though which are all off shoots of Marxism (which was rejected by Marx himself). As for the the wallpaper I think it’s pretty cool and unfortunately true, Communism has become something of a fashion statement for dumb teenager looking to “rebel” against mummy and daddy when if anyone took their Myspace and their iPods away they would probably have a panic attack.
Capatalists should go and communists should rule
inquilab zindabad
When capital and the ruling classes apologize for: Colonialism, the 14 hour work day, Class privilege, the 7 day working week, children in coalmines, the opium wars, the massacre of the Paris Commune, slavery, the Spanish-American War, the Boer War, Starvation, Apartheid, anti-Union laws, the First World War, Flanders, Trench Warfare, Mustard Gas, Aerial Bombing, The Soviet Intervention, The Armenian Genocide, Chemical Weapons, Fascism, The Great Depression, Hunger Marches, Nazism, the Spanish Civil War, Militarism, Asbestosis, Radiation Death, The Massacre of Nanking, the Second World War, Belsen, Dresden, Hiroshima, Racism, the Mafia, Nuclear Weapons, the Korean War, DDT, McCarthyism, Productions Lines, Blacklists, Thalidomide, the Rape of the Third World, Poverty, The Arms Race, Plastic Surgery, The Electric Chair, Environmental Degradation, the Vietnam War, the Military Suppression of Greece, India, Malaya, Indonesia, Chile, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Deforestation, Organized Crime, the Heroin and Cocaine Trade, Tuberculosis, the destruction of the Ozone Layer, Cancer, Exploitation of Labor, and the deaths of 50,000,000 Communists and Trade Unionists in this century alone, THEN, AND ONLY THEN WILL I CONSIDER APOLOGIZING FOR THE ERRORS OF SOCIALISM!
Communism has only killed 100 million people. Let’s give it another chance, you bastards.
I don’t give a damn about your fashion, but when you openly advocate a perverse, immoral system because you are think it is hip and cool you’re an accomplice to these deaths and the deaths of countless others who will die because of your ignorant support for oppressive regimes. If you think communism is about being anti-establishment and supporting the common man ask those who have lived under communist regimes how they feel about your ideas. Rhetoric is not cheap. Ideas have consequences. Consider the consequences of yours before you embrace this bullshit.
Communism isn’t about killing millions of people. That happens when you’ve got an oppresive dictatorship, regardless of what they claim to endorse. (For example, when it comes to social policies, Hitler and Stalin were quite similar.) Also, communism is a socioeconomic system, not a moral one.
communism is never gonna work.. its just to damn “borgish” :P… but socialism can work and i would love if it was dominant all over the world.. it bases upon equality, brotherhood and unity.. there is no private property, education is free, health care is free.. Yugoslavia had all that but God damned capitalists couldn’t stand socialism .. Anyway as Marx said capitalism will fall it must and, i say it again, it will happen sooner or later:))
I used to be a Communist but I realized that total equality with all the masses is impossible in this world. However, you can have equality in terms of value as a citizen in a nation, state or community. International equality will happen when hell freezes over. That said, you can have value in the role you play in a given society. The salaries of different workers and the wide variety of skills required in a country all have different monetary values but are still essential to the country’s functions as a whole.
For example, the human body has many different parts and functions and without one function working properly the body dies or is critically damaging, and some parts work harder and longer than others. Nevertheless, this does not mean the others are not valued; on the contrary, they are interdependent. The heart, for instance, works all the time never ceasing (or, of course, you’ll die) pumping blood everywhere thus supplying the rest of the body with oxygen, nutrients, et cetera. No one ever thinks though that the heart requires more electrical signals than the rest of the body to keep it running. Let us say that the signals are currency; the heart needs more money than the blood does (the worker).
In short, a country needs different classes require different monetary incomes but all are still valued equally in terms of need as a whole. Unity is the key term; functional society as a whole, each individual contributes their bit while the country runs smoothly.
Communism cannot work because of this principle nor can pure capitalism. A fusion between the two with other elements is needed for an effective nation; both an equal and unified one. It is the organic unity that makes society work; co-operation between social classes not trivial bickering. There will always be some group doing more work than others thus will be wanting more in return. Greed is humanity’s downfall. Jealously, envy and selfishness are all in man’s nature when there is no system in place that strives for unity rather than individualism.
Cheers,
Fritz I
I’m sick and tired of these profiteering gluttons exploiting laborers to make a quick buck, Equal opportunity my ass.. Capitalist Pigs…
You all should know that communism as a regime never exsisted. You see comunism is the final step of the vanishing of the state as a whole, and for communism to triumph you need the whole world to be united in that cause. And all of those “communist” states were socialist in nature. So, in a way communism is a united world with no politicians where the system is: “From each according to his abilities to each according to his needs”(i dont know if i wrote this right because english isnt my strong side).
And USSR did not colapse because communism is bad, but because americans payed Gorbachev for peretstroika which ruined the Soviet economy when it was at its peak. And SFRY(Yugoslavia) perished because every republic’s nationalists were funded by guess who.
P.S. And for that cretein who talks about communist killings, I realy dont know if he heard for the NATO bombings of 1999,McCarthyism,Iraq…
Communism has failed simply because the state has been involved. Freedom without socialism is priveledge and inequality, but Socialism without freedom is brutality and slavery.
I’m an Anarcho-Communist. Anarchist communism advocates the abolition of the state and capitalism in favor of a horizontal network of voluntary associations, workers’ councils and/or commons through which everyone will be free to satisfy their needs.
So, anyone who is convinced that authoritarianism and communism are synonymous REALLY isn’t thinking critically.
It makes me laugh people,reading all these replies,one government system against another,in every system there is good points & bad ones,it is the human nature of the people in power who is to blame, take for instance Stalin it was his interpretation of socialism,for his own selfish power hungry motivations,not for his people, the common good of all.His own paranoia & threats to his leadership caused the death of millions of people not communism.Look at capitalism,we all work during the week,only to be ripped of by the consumer goods in which we buy,never being happy with our lifestyles,getting more & more depressed by the day,this research can be backed up because of leading psychologists & sociologists saying western & eastern economies have some of the most unhappy & dissatisfied people,crime rates always rising,anti social behavior with pathetic laws which do not work,people no respecting each other young & especially old.Poor people working their bullocks of all day,true hard graft,for the pathetic min um wage & dying younger on average than their rich capitalists ie:directors,chairmans,politicians,bankers,industrialists & so on.The very same people who are saying the unskilled don’t wont work,these people wouldn’t get out of bed for less than 70k a year it makes you
laugh.If capitalism was to be fairer for all classes, or should I say no class to be exact, the wealth of the country should be distributed to the needy so there is no poverty I don’t mean reward people for sitting around,instead of all these rich peoples bank accounts swelling for the sake of it,take George Sorus why does he need billions to live on,also Bill Gates, I am not condemning what they have achieved personally,just the evil of hoarding money,in the bible it says gluttony is a sin,hence also money.It is human nature to blame people always wont more money than somebody else this is the problem,I personally think a balance between socialism & capitalism would work best,encouraging people to work hard for gain & distribute wealth to the vulnerable & disadvantaged. Education is the key to rising people living standards,unfortunately not everybody is academic,hence poverty,not because they are all lazy and bone idle .It should be a society of caring for your fellow human beings, not,who can accumulate the most wealth at someone else’s expense.
Seriously, comrade! epic and wonderful! But, I must question, why the hammer and sickle, symbolic of the working men for which the communist parties commonly represented, is not among them! Regardless, still grand. But, you should get some hammer/sickle action up in here.
nice debate.. for me.. still peace is my dream and hope the world can be peace and together and whatever people believe don’t judge it cos people have their own choice..
Death tolls and politics aside, Fritz Indiana (above) said it best, “total equality with all the masses is impossible in this world.” In a world of limited resources, someone is always going to want/need more, whether it’s food, oil, or oceanfront property. It’s called human nature. Pure communism is a nice idea, but so are Santa Claus, unicorns and fairy godmothers. The answer is probably somewhere in between capitalism and communism. That said, cool wallpaper image. I doubt it was meant to insight such fervent debate.
So far, no one government has yet to harness “true” communism. Then again, I believe that failure is BECAUSE governments get involved. Communism is an ideology, not a system of government. All previous so-called “socialist” leaders have twisted communism to fit their own selfish needs (Mao, Marx, Stalin, etc). Daz M, Historybuff, maestro, and Rob J all present very valid points.
yea.. most of the communist countries fell because of good things those U.S has made.. and we, Chinese, won’t be that stupid anymore… we don’t like other country to mix in our country’s problems… not even the dalai lama, taiwan, hongkong and macao.. see? now China is a super power country… even U.S can’t win us in Korea, and Vietnam… that proves Communist isn’t bad at all…
Well it’s been a long, long time since I did this but…I’m glad to see the interest still alive, yet sad because people on both sides still don’t understand!
For Kamerads and opponents please get educated about what it is and isn’t…I wrote an article several years ago and posted to many different sites and also made a pamphelet out of it that I’m sure both sides will at least find thought provoking…enjoy
name and e-mail (cjh332033@yahoo.com) are real…if there are any problems with link, let me know
http://ie.indymedia.org/article/63330?condense_comments=true
communism is real and you can mope and moan about how its fucked up in history but its the only real way to achieve equality in a utopian society.
and yes nobody/no society has been able to reach that utopian communist stage… YET. maybe except the smurfs, note gargamel the capitalist who wishes to turn the smurfs to GOLD. notice brainys round glasses like lenins, papa smurfs beard like marxs. all in uniform, all have their jobs, equal and living in harmony.
if you’re going to settle for a capitalist democratic society then the world is only ever going to be as fucked up as it is now.
well what if there just was no government no money nothing if someone needed something they could just ask for it. and i no the argument “oh but suplies are limmited we need to spread them out to everyone” no we dont we give them to the people that need them and sure some people need more things then others like a blacksmith needs more metal than a hunter but the hunter needs more wool to keep warm (yea i know thats all from olden days but it works in the same sense) so if the whole world could just get along for like 20 years to get rid of all the government then all the money and set up a good system of getting suplies and all that good stuff then we could probably handle our selves
Oh, the irony.
Even better is the fact that no one actually understands it.
Brilliant idea.
thank you
hey guys ………….
communism is awsome……..
these wallpapers represent that ideology ….
according to a communist all people are equal………..
Wow this dicussion has been going on for over 2 years and i think das uberdog typed reach not rich
in communists ne desh ki durgati kar rakhi hai.communists ne mere area ki mostly badi factories band kara di,ab sabhi majdoor bhikariyoon ki tarah ghoom rahe hain aur communist leader maze kar rahe hain.
sach main communism world main kahin bhi successful nahi raha.communism jaroori tha,par aaj se 50 saal pahle,ab to communism duniya ka pressure ban gaya hai.isse finish kar dena chahiye aur communist parties ko ban kar dena chahiye.
communism is a very bad thing. My family lived in communism and said it was hell. If you don’t like it they kill you. (China is an exception) You people don’t understand how serious it is. The government owns you and you can’t leave the country or any thing. They can even decide how many babies you have. The reason everyone agrees in communism is because they don’t have a choice.
communist governments rarely do what hey say they will.
umm… if people are not allowed to leave how come I’m in the U.S.? The only reason why people can’t leave communist countries is because Capitalist countries restrict the quantity of people that may enter.
It is very true that million’s of people die when the country is communist. That is due to the fact that people has been dying there in the first place. In China for example, millions are said to have died during the Great Leap forward, but I can say way more died before communism was able to establish itself such as during the Sino-Japanese war from 1937-1945.
A really great example of how Communism balance the world is the current world situation. The U.S. is the sole superpower in the world as of now, however it could not invade any country it wants. Countries such as N. Korea and Vietnam has protection from China. Iraq does not, therefore the U.S. was able to invade the country and get away with it. If there was n communism-the Sole superpower would be able to do anything it likes (assasinate leaders, cause revolts) to make itself look good.
commrades,i’m not a communist bt i do believe in socialist republic (PURE) one
and communism is essential for the society it’s a requirement tht will bring order and peace to the courrupted societies even though Democracy is FREE well
there’s still alot of works tht need to be done.Communism is a god father of
all politic-isms.Democracy is the finest product of the communism and it’s
an evolution of the socialisim of the world today……….
if we are to rebuild a country like myanmar communism or socialism is the
appropriate one and after the order is restored tht’s when democracy comes in…
Socialism is an abhorrent, vile, corrupt idea, that impinges upon freedom at every turn as it plunges its citizens into poverty and suffering.
Thankfully, it is also impossible, never has and never will exist. It relies upon shared ideology, as opposed to the Democratic ’selection of the best’. It cannot make economic calculations and as such cannot plan any construction, agricultural or technological work. It gives power to radical minorities, suppressing dissent, free speech and the press. And this is not just the USSR or the People’s Republic of China. Every Socialist regime will become an oppressive dictatorship or an interventionist state purely because of the poor reasoning and reactionary premise on which it is founded.
The best we can do is to free up trade, vote down interventionism but also encourage philanthropic civil committees. It makes people richer, more comfortable, more empowered and freer to travel, change and grow. Socialism is forever stuck in its polylogistic naivety, where a class system is invented as a scapegoat for the radical and jealous minorities.
Felt like doing some replying.
Zhou~En~Lai:
Yeah, a single-party state which systematically opposes legitimate independence movements and whose economic success has gone hand-in-hand with its abandoning communist doctrine and embracing capitalism is a great example of how communism isn’t bad at all.
aarohoops:
The discussion on this stupid post is pretty ridiculous to begin with, but there’s no way I’m going to let people start talking about anarchism. There’s ridiculous and then there’s ridiculous.
‘Me’:
You can drop the first word from that sentence and it remains as true, if not truer.
CommieD:
Certainly, not everyone in every communist country has been completely barred from leaving, but freedom of movement is often highly restricted, and that’s not because of capitalist countries restricting immigration. I started to compile some examples (GDR, DPRK, Cuba, etc.) but I stopped because there’s little point in trying—yours is an extreme view that requires extreme evidence to be taken seriously, and no such evidence was given.
You mean to suggest that communism would have prevented that Sino-Japanese war? Otherwise, I don’t see the relevance of that comparison.
Mises:
What makes you think socialism and democracy represent a dichotomy? One is economics, the other is politics.
communism wins. capitalism kills.
Communism would be a good idea except for 2 problems:
1) Not all humans are the exact same
2) Human nature makes true Marxist communism utterly unworkable
Hey, I was inspired to make a wallpaper with the same message as yours…
Here: http://ojslaughter.deviantart.com/art/Communism-Wallpaper-122797833
Comrade!
If communism had ever existed (which it hasn’t) we probably wouldn’t be having this silly debate. Socialism is the emancipation of the working classes unlike Christianity which keeps people tethered to false gods blowing the shit out of each other because their superiors told them to. Anyone who says communism has already failed is a fucking moron, the ol\nly thing we have seen in ‘communist’ countries is “State Capitalism.” After all if everyone was equal, we’d have no need for money.
Anyway, nice wallpapers, and to all those who flamed this page, get over yourselves. =]
sa ma fut in comunismul vostru. Mai vorbiti de plusuri…
Vina in pula mea in Moldova si ai sa simti cum te penetreaza secera si ciocanu.
FUCK COMMUNISM!!! Pidaroi de communisti
Comrades, greetings from Moldova!
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Great wallpapers, i love it. Thanks!
No pasaran! Hasta la victoria siempre, comrades!
F..CK romanian nazi’s! Suge pula! Romania nu uita, ca Moldova nu-i a ta!
Srsly dudes, Communism works pretty great when used correctly i was a Nazi but changed didn’t like it’s system to handle difference people but i was young and stupid, Communism i cool and the thing why all this peopled because of that, isn’t communisms fault it’s the leaders so people saying communism is bad, scree you, you listen to much US propaganda and only read that Mao and Stalin killed 30 and 60 million people and it was under Communism, it’s the leaders fault not Communism think about it before you write “Communism sucks it coursed 100 million deaths”
Hey I totally disagree with… Oh wait if we want communism then we can’t even post things like this because you are using a a system created and made by capitalists. Do you even get it? No you don’t. The system you are using (the internet) to spread YOUR propaganda, right now, that “Communism is cool” was made by capitalists and the great motherland didn’t even have personal computers at the time. Forget your computer, forget your program to make that poster, and definitely forget the internet because if America was under communism you couldn’t do any of that. In fact we wouldn’t even be able to have this discussion, we would be too busy raping women, drinking vodka, and sewing potato seeds for the government. Its time to get a grip on reality my dear comrade!
Oh and please don’t get the idea that I’m siding with the Catholics, I despise them more than you, comrade…
I’d rather be drinking vodka and sewing potato seeds than having this “discussion”.
Communism is a dire need of 2day’s world
This world is fucked in a capitalist society, Comuninsum tryes to bring the good in humans. For all people who think comunisum is a dictatorship, (whel to get to the first step it in need) there rong, its a dimocracy and no country has ever been comunist ( big thanks to wallstreet, fags).
People who say communists are good are so gonna be fucked! don’t you see how many innocent slaughtered, huh? Don’t you dare joke about this shit! or i screwed your motherfucking head up!
That is the most ignorant thing i have ever seen! Down with communism!